Review board approves Wal-Mart sign variance

Staff Writer

Wal-Mart has submitted a request to the Pagosa Springs Planning Department for a variance to install a 209 square-foot wall sign on the front of its proposed store — the town’s Land Use and Development Code places a 100 square-foot limit on such signs — and the Design Review Board voted Tuesday to approve the variance.

According to the LUDC, “The maximum area of any one sign shall be determined by the following formulas: Wall-mounted signs shall not exceed ten percent of the facade in Zone 2, on which it is mounted, up to a maximum of 100 square feet.”

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This story was posted on April 18, 2013.

20 Responses to Review board approves Wal-Mart sign variance

  1. Walmartsux

    April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Oh, great, another variance for Walmart. Pagosa has bent over backward for this store. When does it end????

  2. compmom42

    April 23, 2013 at 10:12 am

    And how will the small stores survive once WalMart arrives?

  3. ajpagosa

    April 24, 2013 at 6:52 am

    Is this a trick question?

    By offering better service, better prices, better buying experience? By offering goods and services that Walmart does not? By not acting like they are entitled to rip off locals just because they happen to have a trinket store here? By not whining and trying to guilt trip their customers into paying more for less?

    Walmart does not sell so many things related to life and recreational tourism here, not to mention it is not a hotel or a restaurant, a ski area or hot springs. It is not a builder nor does it sell real estate, or lumber, or hunting fishing boating guide. Or even touristy stuff like local t-shirts and gifts. Etc. etc. Use your imagination, if your store primarily is selling cheap chinese junk for high prices & gouging locals for basic necessities maybe you should go out of business.

    Mainly what Walmart will do is make living here more affordable for the vast majority of people who actually LIVE here. Not to mention draw in a lot of surrounding residents who otherwise go to Durango, plus generate tax revenue.

  4. ajpagosa

    April 24, 2013 at 6:54 am

    Hopefully not until the Home Depot and Cabellas stores get built.

  5. planatlaw

    April 24, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    This is really sad. First the town strips out all really good standards attributable to “big box” stores, then they get a road for Walmart, and now this. I went to a seminar in Santa Fe in 2000 put on by Durango in how to minimize impacts from “big box” development, and Pagosa has categorically NOT done anything they recommended to assure a fit with the community for a “big box”. Obviously, you can’t teach an old mayor new tricks and you can’t get a interstate economic developer to change his stripes.

  6. planatlaw

    April 24, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    There is absolutely no empirical evidence to support the statement that Walmart will improve the affordability of Pagosa for anyone…..none.

  7. ajpagosa

    April 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Well, Professor, I beg to differ. It’s why I drive to Durango to shop at the Walmart there, it is cheaper. Many other people do too. Maybe you should try it sometime, it’s fun to save money. We’d save even more if we didn’t have to drive there.

  8. MountainMan44

    April 24, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    I plan on not shopping at Wal-Mart. Mostly because of their crappy merchandise.

    What does irk me is that they got a variance for the sign. Why bother having limits if someone who wants a bigger sign than the limits say gets a variance? The whole point of the sign variance was to keep signs smaller.

    Brilliant, folks.

  9. Happy

    April 25, 2013 at 9:01 am

    The small stores have NOT been surviving and the customer service is lousy!!!! It’s pretty sad when WalMart gives better service then the locals.

  10. Inez

    April 25, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    VERY, well said!!

  11. Inez

    April 25, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Dont forget Best Buy and Outback. I love to window shop for TVs and appliances after a nice steak dinner.

  12. james

    April 26, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Is all the garbage and clutter on 160 by the U-Haul area ( old vehicle, refrigerators piled up and trash in view of all) ok to have ? Highway 160/84 intersection trash heap and more than you can name through out town. The town needs to stop looking like a junk yard and we are all worried about Walmart? The unemployment recipients can now get a job and stop collecting off the system.

  13. Bruce Baillie

    April 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    I think ajpagosa and inez should move to a BIG city……..with all the BIG stores….

  14. Inez

    April 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    I think ajpagosa and Inez probably do not want to move to the big city, otherwise they would! I think Inez is just tired of getting ripped off every time he goes downtown. I think Inez has been here for years and is tired of seeing local businesses close down and owners flee to Costa Rica because they are crooked scammers. Unfortunately, people from California and everywhere else try to change the laws and lifestyle to suit their wants and needs here in Colorado. Why cant they bring a desire for Walmart as well?

  15. Inbred

    April 30, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    it sounds like you enjoy spending time at walmart and driving. You don’t really save money shopping at walmart if you spend all the extra money in gas getting there. Then there’s the 1 hr commute each direction plus all the crazies in Durango or Farmington you have to navigate around not to mention the elk and deer! I hope you aren’t risking your spouse’s or children’s life driving all the way to durango for nothing. Support our local families even if they are working for a city market kroger store. At least they get a 40 hour a week job and some health benefits unlike the folks at walmart. We, and I mean every pagosan, don’t need walmart…..they need us. ‘Course maybe I should get out more often….

  16. ajpagosa

    May 1, 2013 at 4:13 am

    Why should I support local merchants, they don’t support me. I schedule my trips so that gas + savings still comes out ahead. I’d like to do that here and save the gas. Plus how exactly would I not be supporting families here if I shop at walmart here?

    Folks like you have been brainwashed by these local merchants into thinking you’re disloyal by looking out for YOUR OWN FAMILY and trying to keep your living costs down. Look up Stockholm Syndrome. We are being ripped off and you are defending the thieves. Unless maybe you are one of them?

    Besides, as I pointed out, Walmart
    does not compete with any true local business that sell stuff I need, unless you count that big grocery store with unionized cashiers. I should pay more to a giant food chain and big labor to “support local familes? Really?

    If you don’t like walmart don’t shop there but don’t you DARE try to prevent me from having that option.

  17. ajpagosa

    May 1, 2013 at 4:19 am

    Sounds like you’re still pissed off about the electricity and running water. Hey did you know women can vote now?

  18. Alaskamarijuana

    May 1, 2013 at 8:10 am


  19. ajpagosa

    May 1, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    OK this is just idiotic. Both the auto parts stores in town, practically everything is chinese made junk. I bought a set of spring compressors there, they first said 75 on the phone, when I got there they said 85, with tax 90. I needed them so I paid it. Cheap garbage made in taiwan. I found same thing on line later for 38 shipped no tax.

    Both hardware stores in town, stock mostly chinese made junk. I tried to buy a snowblower locally. I checked on line first, I could get it for 1100 shipped no tax. Local stores would not discount so I went to SW Ag in Bayfield. MSRP was 1249, I asked what they’d sell it for. They wanted 1399! Same model. I was speechless. When I asked why they thought they could charge more than MSRP, the guy actually said
    to me, “we don’t feel we have to justify our prices.”

    This attitude has been my experience more times than I can count. Oh and guess where I bought it? On line for 1100 no tax shipped. And it turns out it was made in China.

    So please explain to my why it is OK for local merchants to buy their merchandise from china, and save themselves overhead and not bother to pay americans to make it, but then whine when I try to save a little I am some terrible disloyal person who should know better? Huh?

  20. ajpagosa

    May 2, 2013 at 5:58 am

    Exactly. Plus we have the Boulder Hive Mind setting up sleeper cells all over small mountain towns like Pagosa, infesting city councils and pushing their quirky hate-filled anti-human socialist agendas.